Talk:Israeli-occupied territories

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Clarification of "1967–1994" Panel in the Overview[edit]

The caption says:

"In 1980–81 Israel annexed East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights. Neither Israel's annexation nor Palestine's claim over East Jerusalem has been internationally recognized."

Without knowing the back and forth on this (I was just here to read up on this because I don't know much about it after all) this seems counterintuitive. If Israel annexed two territories, and that annexation was not internationally recognized in the case of the Golan Heights, why would the case of East Jerusalem be the other way around? To me, the caption reads like the annexation of East Jerusalem got recognized and Palestine later "claimed it back" but that claim was not recognized. Is that correct?

So I guess some clarification might be in order here. Thanks very much for the nice overview by the way, this was exactly what I had been looking for :)

Gaps in Overview table[edit]

Since the British Mandate ended in 1948, and with only a brief exception from 1956-1957 for Gaza, there is a 19 year gap of information about who was in control of the four former Mandate parts. I suppose I could assume that they were controlled by Egypt, Jordan, etc., but I would very much like to see this made explicit in a dedicated row. Does anyone know the history well enough to feel justified in adding the information? Must I try to be a bit more clear? Who did Israel take occupation from? Not from the British that late, so ... nobody? Jordan? Who? StephanNaro (talk) 10:53, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed interesting pont.
Jordan annexed the West Bank following their invasion of the region. The Gaza strip was under Egyptian rule following their invasion of the region. Homerethegreat (talk) 14:13, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If you have more questions feel free to ask. Homerethegreat (talk) 14:13, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

East Jerusalem in the Overview table[edit]

Is there a reason Israel isn't listed in the "Claimed by" list for East Jersualem? Lebanon and Syria are doubled-up in "Claimed by" and "Currently administered by". I didn't want to add in case there was a specific reason, but shouldn't Israel be there too because it claims East Jersualem as part of Israel? Yr Enw (talk) 21:16, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dissolution of Military governorate[edit]

The lead says the military governorate was dissolved in 1981, the cited source doesnt seem appropriate (would need a secondary source rather than a UN report).

Also, Sara Roy describes the formation of the civil administration in 1981:

Soon thereafter, the Israeli government instituted a civil administration in the Gaza Strip and West Bank, structurally parallel to that of the military ad- ministration and subject to it. In that sense, the civil administration was, in effect, an integral part of the military structure. Implemented in Gaza on 1 De- cember 1981, the CIVAD, as it came to be known, was given responsibility over all nonmilitary sectors such as health, education, and welfare.

DMH223344 (talk) 00:19, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]