Talk:Mount of Olives Jewish Cemetery

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Desecration under Jordanian rule[edit]

Please add a proper paragraph regarding the extensive destruction of the cemetery during the Jordanian occupation. You may use the findings of Israeli Committee to Examine the Desecration of Cemeteries on the Mount of Olives and in Hebron (הועדה לבדיקת חילול בתי-עלמין בהר זיתים וחברון) for details. You will find my translation of page 23 on the talk page of Jordanian annexation of the West Bank. Kind regards --144.178.29.89 (talk) 00:44, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

1970 video of grave restoration: https://jfc.org.il/news_journal/60857-2/99160-2/ --79.180.14.146 (talk) 07:21, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ongoing burials[edit]

What is the status of the cemetery as far as new burials go? The article lists some people who have died in the last few years, indicating it isn't entirely full, but is burial open to anyone, or is it restricted either by needing some special status or indirectly through high cost? Given the popularity of this site as a burial place and it being hemmed in by Jerusalem the amount of land available must be finite to the point that not just anyone can be buried there indefinitely. Beorhtwulf (talk) 13:47, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jewish Cemetery or simply Cemetery?[edit]

The two Christians listed are buried in the same area, one of them is even on the list of the International Committee for Har Hazeitim (ICHH) (https://harhazeisim.org/notables/), but they're obviously not buried in the Jewish cemetery:

  • Queen Boedil Thurgotsdatter - couldn't find any info about her grave's location. On her husband's page it reads "She was buried at the foot of the Mount of Olives in the Valley of Josaphat", but w/o a source.
  • Princess Alice of Battenberg: she's buried in a crypt of the 19th-century Russian Orthodox Church of Mary Magdalene, at least now obviously not part of the Jewish cemetery. Arminden (talk) 19:25, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed these two. The memorial stone shown for Thurgotsdatter is in Denmark. There is no grave in this cemetery. Onceinawhile (talk) 12:42, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

3000[edit]

There are ancient Jewish tombs on the Mt of olive that date back more than 3000 years. Perhaps add in the Jewish history of the land prior the in colonial Islamic califate. 24.69.184.235 (talk) 13:27, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't concur, but the current wording (leased from a waqf in C16) isn't fully convincing, looks I/P biased (see also the undue stress on the 100+ graves marked on the C19 map; think of cemetery maintenance in C16-C19). A definition is needed: what is the topic here, what defines this cemetery? Is it distinct from older Jewish graveyards in the Qidron Valley and at the foot & W slopes of the Mount, and if yes, how (lack of continuity, new tradition, whatever)? The Muslim waqf it was leased from most likely got it from Saladin in 1189; was there any Jewish cemetery in the area between the well-documented Late Second Temple period burials (Tomb of Absalom, family burials and individual pits), and the Ayyubids?
Related: more details about the mentioned midrash pls! When did it appear? What was the context, and was it widely circulated? Very relevant. Arminden (talk) 13:38, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Most important[edit]

This article says it is "the oldest and most important Jewish cemetery in Jerusalem." But our article on the much older Silwan necropolis says that it is "the most important cemetery in ancient Judea". So which is it? Onceinawhile (talk) 12:44, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The period is what matters: 1TP, 2TP, Ottoman period, modern/contemporary period. Silwan is 1TP, Absalom-Hezir-Zachariah is 2TP, most of the Olive Mount graves seem to be Ottoman, Har HaMenuchot is currently the only relevant one, and Mount Herzl is the official "national cemetery" and the only one regularly used for state events. As always, the answer is in the definition. Arminden (talk) 13:46, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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