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Property Losses Estimate[edit]

The last sentence of the header reads: "According to Perry Anderson, it is estimated that half of the population in the Palestinian territories are refugees and that they have collectively suffered approximately US$300 billion in property losses due to Israeli confiscations, at 2008–09 prices."

However, the *total* national wealth of neighbouring Jordan (population >10M, greater than 2x the current population of the Gaza Strip + the West Bank) is $146 billion, according to https://www.qudswiki.org/?query=List_of_countries_by_total_wealth. Even if property in Israel is substantially more valuable per square foot (possible), Israel's total national wealth is only $1,046 billion or $1.05 trillion (same source), and Israel is an unusually stable/rich/technologically innovative country by Middle Eastern standards so the land in an independent Palestine has no guarantee to be as valuable as land in the state of Israel.

I submit that this sentence should be removed as not credible, or at least have some sort of qualification added to it providing context (such as the total wealth of neighbouring Jordan).

Hebrew or Greek Origin[edit]

Why is there this discrepancy between the page Philistines and the page Palestinians?

Philistines: The English term Philistine comes from Old French Philistin; from Classical Latin Philistinus; from Late Greek Philistinoi; ultimately from Hebrew Pəlištī (פְּלִשְׁתִּי; plural Pəlištīm, פְּלִשְׁתִּים), meaning 'people of Pəlešeṯ (פְּלֶשֶׁת)'; and there are cognates in Akkadian Palastu and Egyptian Palusata;[6] the term Palestine has the same derivation.[7] The native Philistine endonym is unknown.

The Greek toponym Palaistínē (Παλαιστίνη), which is the origin of the Arabic Filasṭīn (فلسطين), first occurs in the work of the 5th century BCE Greek historian Herodotus, where it denotes generally[63] the coastal land from Phoenicia down to Egypt.[64][65] Herodotus also employs the term as an ethnonym, as when he speaks of the "Syrians of Palestine" or "Palestinian-Syrians",[66] an ethnically amorphous group he distinguishes from the Phoenicians.[67][68] Herodotus makes no distinction between the inhabitants of Palestine.[69]

Palestinians: A depiction of Syria and Palestine from CE 650 to 1500 The Greek word reflects an ancient Eastern Mediterranean-Near Eastern word which was used either as a toponym or ethnonym. In Ancient Egyptian Peleset/Purusati[70] has been conjectured to refer to the "Sea Peoples", particularly the Philistines.[71][72] Among Semitic languages, Akkadian Palaštu (variant Pilištu) is used of 7th-century Philistia and its, by then, four city states.[73] Biblical Hebrew's cognate word Plištim, is usually translated Philistines.[74]

Why is a term in article A given as derived from Greek derived from Hebrew, but in article B given as derived from Greek? Especially since Shmuel A predates the Historiai by roughly two hundred years, if not more? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.27.31.160 (talk) 19:46, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Origins - Text does not match references[edit]

The text "Most Palestinians share a strong genetic link to the ancient Canaanites." is incomplete based on the references. It should be "Most Arab and Jewish populations in the region, including the Palestinians share a strong genetic link to the ancient Canaanites. 23.233.29.50 (talk) 17:34, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done. The article is about Palestinians. Selfstudier (talk) 17:36, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 March 2024[edit]

Mentions to Arabs cannot be called Palestinians because their genetics are not always the same. It's not honest. There are Palestinians who are Arabs and there are others who are of African and even Jewish origin (because they were forced to convert to Islam). It's important not to lie. Wikiprofessormoraes (talk) 13:18, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You might find WP:EDITXY helpful. If you have a proposed change that is 'Specific, Uncontroversial, Necessary, Sensible' (and based on reliable sources not your personal views), re-submit your edit request with the details and someone will handle it. Sean.hoyland (talk) 13:43, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]