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I consider the changes made by 46.120.95.75 as displaying a political position, not appropriate in a neutral encyclopedia Urgert (talk) 19:24, 28 May 2011 (UTC) Therefore I ask if an administrator would be willing to revert the edits made by this editor. Urgert (talk) 19:39, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree.Knowitall369 (talk) 11:43, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it wasn't good. But what's left is not good either. For example the polemic tone of this opinion piece indicates it shouldn't be used without "According to...". And settler mouthpiece Arutz Sheva shouldn't be used at all. The effect of the wall on the neighborhood needs to be returned (with proper sources) as it is one of the most prominent features of the place. Zero^talk 13:42, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ma'ale ha-Zeitim[edit]

It seems that the section discussing the neighborhood of Ma'ale ha-Zeitim on the edge of Ras al-Amud should only be a sentence or two with a link to the existing Ma'ale ha-Zeitim article. Most of the information here about Ma'ale ha-Zeitim should be copied into that article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.124.244.85 (talk) 07:46, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ma'ale ha-Zeitim is a group of houses in an existing neighborhood in the municipal boundaries of Jerusalem. It cannot accurately and NPOV be described as a "settlement."Knowitall369 (talk) 16:59, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable sources identify the settlement as a settlement. You do not get to replace a reliably sourced description on a settlement in East Jerusalem. What is POV is demanding that "Greater Jerusalem" according to Israel is the end of the story. Self-revert your edit as it goes directly against the cited source. nableezy - 17:33, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"landmark"[edit]

Why is a former police station a landmark here? I believe I said it was not only unsourced but also unimportant. nableezy - 01:17, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Old buildings are landmarks. Regardless a police HQ is a significant installation.Icewhiz (talk) 15:33, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What reliable sources support this being a landmark in a place with thousands of years of history? nableezy - 00:26, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is somewhat ridiculous to call this a "landmark". The fact that the police headquarters used to be in this neighborhood is marginally interesting (below the line in my opinion) but no source has been offered for the significance of the building or who owns it now. Compare this to the total absence of the landmark that most hits visitors in the eye, which is the fucking great concrete wall that cuts this place off from Abu Dis. Zero^talk 02:33, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The building doesnt even currently stand lol. But its a "landmark". Icewhiz, please explain how it is due weight to include a demolished police station as a "landmark" in this article. nableezy - 05:13, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I appreciate you Icewhiz. I kind of think you are going to wish you had just let the deletion stand, but you insisted. nableezy - 05:16, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I merely alerted you, as a courtesy, to a 1RR violation - I was not aware (nor were you, it seems) that the building has been subsequently demolished. Icewhiz (talk) 06:36, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

unreliable sources and other distortions[edit]

CS Monitor very specifically calls Ma'ale HaZeitim a settlement. israelbehindthenews.com and middleeastfacts.com are not reliable. Ive combined the usable material from the "neighborhoods" section with one on the now two settlements there. nableezy - 05:30, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]