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The article was merged via discussion on Talk:Contemplative_prayer#Merge_with_Christian_contemplation. History2007 (talk) 13:14, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've moved the content from Christian contemplation to Contemplative prayer, since that is the proper topic of that content. "Christian contemplation" can be used as a disambiguation page. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:04, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I've moved the content from Theoria (Eastern Orthodox Christianity) to here; it's the same topic. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 07:29, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I've moved a substantial amount of information from Christian contemplation to Mystical theology. See Talk:Theoria (Eastern Orthodox Churches) for the history of this information. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 04:05, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
To make things even more complicated, I've merged "Contemplative prayer" back into Christian contemplation, to which I've also moved the content from Theoria (Eastern Orthodox Christianity). And that content was first at Theoria, which I had moved to Theoria (Eastern Orthodox Christianity). 'That's all, folks'... (sorry for the complicated merge & move history). Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 04:50, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
And finally, I've moved the whole page to Christian mysticsm, as it is the same topic. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 15:15, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Soaking prayer[edit]

Is soaking prayer similar enough to contemplative prayer that it would make sense to redirect, or is it totally different? Oiyarbepsy (talk) 00:47, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

'Soaking prayer' term is not used by non-Reformed Christian traditions; 'contemplation' is the term used by non-Reformed Christian traditions. --Omnipaedista (talk) 15:27, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Omnipaedista So does that mean that the answer is no? Oiyarbepsy (talk) 15:36, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It would not be a good idea to create such a redirect. 'Soaking prayer' should be a standalone article. --Omnipaedista (talk) 15:37, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Structuring Eastern and Latin traditions[edit]

Do the sections between Christian contemplation and Stages Seem disorganized to anyone else? I think it's a result of the difficulty of placing in parallel Latin and Eastern traditions on the subject. I'm thinking it would be better to synthesize it this way:

1. Christian contemplation Maintaining the same structure.

2. Merging definitions and discussions on the nature of contemplative prayer to Christian contemplation fitting them under Eastern Orthodox Church or Latin Church respectively.

3. Aim Stages or Models towards the "methodology" of contemplation according to the respective traditions.

OR

3. Merge Stages and Models to Christian contemplation as subsections.

Achirra (talk) 09:36, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

After looking at the archives, it looks like the difficulty in organizing everything was indeed because of conflicts of expressing the integrity of each tradition. I think this can be best resolved by reducing the sections to the Eastern and Western traditions and providing another section on the debate of whether its possible to reconcile these two traditions or not. I would be happy to help with the Western tradition, but I wouldn't trust myself to preserve the integrity of of the Eastern. Achirra (talk) 12:49, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]