Template talk:Western Christianity footer

Cladogram

Material for a cladogram.

Alternatively, an independent template using Template:Clade could be done, and then implemented in this template Template:Western Christianity footer (while also perhaps useful elsewhere, including in very articles). Chicbyaccident (talk) 23:31, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

BRD

Please do not discuss in edit summaries as you're doing on Template:Western Christianity footer. The template has a talk page. Please discuss there. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:29, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Place Clichy edits

@Place Clichy: Regarding this edit. "Independent Catholicism are Catholics not in communion with Rome". That is not supported by Independent Catholicism or Catholicism(which redirects to Catholic Church. I must ask you to discus, and refer your arguments supported by sources. As this is a template, it better be supported by a collection of sources as seen in articles - which templates aim to reflect. Even better, please direct you arguments to a centralised location at Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Catholicism)#Catholicism. Thank you! Chicbyaccident (talk) 14:19, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

I am not sure what the objection is, and I will not draw conclusions from an edit comment which is not editorial content. My edits on this template come from the concern to present Independent Catholicism as a major branch of (Western) Christianity at the same level with Catholicism and Protestantism, as in this version of the template.

Note for instance how the Oxford Dictionary defines Catholicism as 1. The faith, practice, and church order of the Roman Catholic Church. 1.1 Adherence to the forms of Christian doctrine and practice which are generally regarded as Catholic rather than Protestant or Eastern Orthodox. According to this very standard definition, the doctrine and practice of, for instance, the Old Catholic Church, cannot seriously be regarded as Protestant or Eastern Orthodox. Their Catholic heritage in doctrine and practice is clearly stated, for instance, in the Old Catholic Church article, which describes Old Catholics as groups which had separated from the Roman Catholic Church over certain doctrines, primarily concerned with papal authority [...] Catholics who disagreed with the Roman Catholic dogma of papal infallibility as defined by the First Vatican Council (1870).

However, I actually sincerely doubt that this navigation footer really serves a purpose on articles better served with long-standing navigation boxes such as {{Christianity footer}}, {{Protestantism}} or {{Catholicism}}. Western Christianity is good the the article namespace, but it does not need an intermediary level of distinction in terms of navbox. Not every article needs to be transformed into a navbox. Place Clichy (talk) 16:36, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

This is getting tiresome. We can't expect users to repeat the same kind of discussion in indefinite individual locations. Would you mind to please state the above arguments and all other arguments that you deem relevant at Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Catholicism)#Catholicism? Thanks! Chicbyaccident (talk) 15:35, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

To add to the this, neither is your assertion of taxonomy supported by List of Christian denominations. PPEMES (talk) 20:41, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

List of independent Catholic denominations

@PPEMES and Walter Görlitz: I don't really care for the discussion above, but whatever conclusion you reach, as long as the article is at List of independent Catholic denominations (with an uncapitalized i), that should be the direct (so not redirected) target of the wikilink, per WP:BRINT. Accordingly, the choice is between "List of independent Catholic denominations" and List of Independent Catholic denominations (piped), but not "List of Independent Catholic denominations" (redirected). – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:42, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Sure. No problem. PPEMES (talk) 12:55, 26 June 2019 (UTC)