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On 17 September 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to January 2006 Tel Aviv bombing. The result of the discussion was not moved.

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Please discuss items here before any unilateral edits. Thanks!Mistamystery (talk) 05:53, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 17 September 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Merge can be discussed separately. (closed by non-admin page mover) estar8806 (talk) ★ 23:20, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

1st Rosh Ha'ir restaurant bombing → January 2006 Tel Aviv bombing – Per WP:NCE and WP:NPOV (the source titles say 'Tel Aviv bombing' etc.), and per the disambiguation page 2006 Tel Aviv bombing. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:19, 17 September 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 (talk) 23:43, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The disambiguation page is a remnant from the inaccurate generation of the initial article in which the author failed to note there was more than one suicide bombing in Tel Aviv that year. Does not support re-naming.

And most sources point out explicitly that there were two bombings in the same location in the same year, which is profoundly unique on its own merits and worthy of mention. Also must note that in popular reference, as well as on parent article, attacks are routinely named by location/geography as specifically as a store, intersection, bus station, restaurant, cafe, disco, etc. It’s actually rather rare to see a suicide attack named by city alone.

Understand the desire to give prominence to the city significance of the attacks, but I believe it undercuts the far more relevant notability that the same location was targeted by the same organization(s) twice in one year. Mistamystery (talk) 13:58, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The basic requirements of WP:NCE are who, where, what, but the title this page has been created to does not give the 'when' (1st means nothing without context), and the 'where' is unnatural and unrecognisable per WP:CRITERIA: an obscure restaurant name is not a particularly useful title element. Iskandar323 (talk) 16:58, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I feel that the two pages should be merged into a single Rosh Ha'ir restaurant bombings page. The first is a stub, and the incidents obviously overlap in location and intent. BD2412 T 03:21, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That could be a possibility I suppose. I've seen other clumped events, but I have little awareness of the general tolerance for this kind of grouped, here dual, event page. It would be succinct. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:04, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.