Talk:2019 AFC Cup

Teams[edit]

@Chanheigeorge: The article [1] 6.1 and 6.2 say :

"6.1. MAs shall be allocated a maximum of one third (1/3) of the total number of clubs in their national top division league. This figure includes direct slots and playoff slots.

6.1.1. When determining the number of clubs in the national top division league of an MA, ‘foreign’ clubs shall not be considered.

6.1.2. The AFC General Secretariat has sole discretion to determine whether a club shall be considered a ‘foreign’ club for the above purpose.

6.2. The maximum number of slots allocated to an MA shall be limited to two (2) even though it may have more than six (6) teams in its national top division league."

But their national top division league in Guam only has 5 teams ,so I think Guam only has one slot.114.88.73.41 (talk) 01:36, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! The number of teams in Guam league are different each season. They had 6 teams in 2015–16 [2] but only 5 teams in 2016–17, so I think it will depend on how many teams they have in 2017–18. Chanheigeorge (talk) 15:06, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Philippine teams[edit]

Note that the Philippines integrates its cup competition (2018 Copa Paulino Alcantara) in the qualification for Philippine clubs in the 2019 AFC Cup. The confusion might have been from the coincidence regarding the placing of the two qualifying clubs in the league (2018 Philippines Football League) and cup competition. (Kaya-Iloilo and Davao Aguilas placed 2nd and 3rd in the league; 1st and 2nd in the cup competition).

This has been supported by the multiple reliable sources:

Sources explicitly stating Kaya qualified by winning the cup or states the winner of the cup (then-potentially either Davao or Kaya) qualifying for the AFC Cup.

Fox Sports (also states how Davao key player Phil Younghusband had to wait for the next league and cup competition for the chance his club to qualify; meaning Kaya's qualification as PHI's second team was not set even after the conclusion of the league)
Sun Star - mentions how the winner of the cup final will join Ceres-Negros, the league winners, in the AFC Cup.
Philippine Canadian Inquirer (via Philippine News Agency) - states the the cup competition as a qualifier for the 2019 AFC Cup.

Several sources has mentioned how the final of the 2018 Copa Paulino Alcantara will decide the qualifying second Philippine team. If it is insisted that all clubs qualified through the league system then the final would have had no baring; if Davao Aguilas did win, they could still not qualified since they placed third in the league competition. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 09:57, 28 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe we should wait AFC source? Hhkohh (talk) 10:25, 28 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed related content, we can read after consensus is reached or AFC announced this issue Hhkohh (talk) 10:33, 28 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There is no controversy about the qualifying method of the second AFC team, which is the cup winner (unless the cup winner also are the league champion, then the league runner-up get the second AFC spot). For the standby team, it is either the league runner-up (if the cup winner is not among the league top two), or the league 3rd place (if the cup winner is among the league top two). Who finishes as cup runner-up is not relevant in deciding the standby team. It is just coincidence that Davao are both the league 3rd place and cup runner-up. Chanheigeorge (talk) 11:45, 28 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We can refer to the Entry Manual about this. In Article 12.1, only cup winners given a slot. While in Article 12.4.2, if the cup winners is league runners-up, then the 3rd seed (standby team in this case) is the league 3rd place. So the current version is right. It will be nice if we can hear something from AFC though. Fauzannaufan (talk) 09:43, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Hariboneagle927: If source you provided is different from AFC, I think we should use AFC source although these are reliable sources Hhkohh (talk) 09:49, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To be fair, neither of the sources mentioned how Davao Aguilas could still play in the AFC Cup; if they qualified as standby team by virtue of their league standings. Viewing the AFC Training Manual as pointed by Fauzannaufan cleared things out.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 15:17, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]