Talk:Catacomb culture

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actually THE BEST & topical publication about it: Katarzyna Ślusarska - Funeral rites of the catacomb community: 2800-1900BC. Ritual, tanathology and geographical origins. BPS 13. Poznań 2007 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kefas de Merciful (talk • contribs) 12:52, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Logic?[edit]

"The Catacomb culture (c. 2800–1700 BC) was a Bronze Age culture which flourished on the Pontic steppe in 2800–1700 BC." Who writes such a nonsense? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8108:9640:AC3:ADB9:E42B:813:AB15 (talk) 14:44, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Phantasy[edit]

" It was Indo-European-speaking, perhaps speaking an early form of Indo-Iranian or Thracian." - This is pure phantasy and unprovable. It is possible, perhaps probable, no more.2A02:8108:9640:AC3:ADB9:E42B:813:AB15 (talk) 14:45, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mistake[edit]

"Some of these have been suggested as among the earliest chariots that have been found.^[1]" Neither at the given page nor elsewhere in the given source (free available online) a chariot is ascribed to the Catacomb culture. During this check I noted that the whole article is more or less a plagiate of Mallory/Adams (1997).2A02:8108:9640:AC3:ADB9:E42B:813:AB15 (talk) 16:20, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Paternal Haplogroup(s)?[edit]

By now there must be Y-Chromosome characterization.

Explanation of the name[edit]

This article is sorely lacking an explanation of the name "Catacomb", did this culture bury people in catacombs? The article needs to explain this. Immanuelle 💗 (please tag me) 23:54, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Striking similarities" = in reality 80-90% different culture[edit]

This article is a (not so) bright example of Steppe doctrine propaganda from people who are no more than 50% yamnaya/steppe themselves.

I get that they have an identity crisis (especially the american ones) and so they LARP as steppe nomads (in their dreams) but in the meantime, they have to find "steppe evidence" anywhere and drawing from a couple of similarities, try to create an impression that Mycenaean culture was a descendant of the Catacomb culture hence terms like "striking similarities"

In reality there's f-all similarities -different architecture -different diet -different lifestyle (farmer vs nomad) -different art -different religion These are just a few examples. The similarities is literally a couple of things of minor importance in the overall culture and some are even suggested (masks), nothing concrete At the same time all the much more numerous influences from the East are not mentioned, least they put into perspective how minor any "steppe influence" (through proxy populations nonetheless) really was. It ruins the "striking similarities" fairytale and the egos of the larpers can't have that now can they

Let this be a warning to anyone reading this. Beware of the steppe dogma and people who pretend to be descendants of steppe nomads. It's a delusion and a cope and they will distort reality if it suits their cope agenda YOU WILL NEVER BE A REAL NOMAD YOU HAVE NO CHARIOT, YOU HAVE NO HORSE, YOU ARE 50% ANATOLIAN/EEF Cope 46.177.94.68 (talk) 13:58, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

^ Mallory & Adams 1997, pp. 91–92.

[FOOTNOTEMalloryAdams199791–92-1] Mallory & Adams 1997, pp. 91–92.

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