Talk:William Lobb

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matter about prior transport to Great Britain[edit]

Note: All of this information on William Lobb and John Lyndel and about the naming and introduction of the Sequoia Redwood to Europe is totally false. The Priority issue was settled by the Editorial staff of the Gardeners Chronicle in 1866 one year after John Lyndel, the previous editor of the Gardeners Chronicle, died. Lyndel had received in early 1854 a letter from Patrick Matthew that he intentionally sat on for a year before he finally published it. This letter with excerpts from a previous letter dated mid 1853 in which Patrick Matthew's son John D. Matthew details his collection of Giant Redwood seeds from the Calaveras grove in the Western Sierra Nevadas. John D. Matthew also enclosed with his letter a sketch of the tree, its description and the location of the tree in which he gathered the seed from...which was located in a small swampy area in one of the two Groves now well known today in Calaveras Big Tree State Park. <<See Sutton 2016 ... @ Patrick Matthew.com.... subj. ...Patrick Matthew Redwoods >> John D. Matthew got his seed packet to his Father Patrick Matthew in Scotland by steamship mail packet in August 1853 while Lobb taking regular passage by passenger ship was not able to get his seed personally to his employer Veatch Nurseries until Dec. 1853. During that interim of four months Patrick Matthew was the first to propogate and plant the seeds of the California Sequoias thereby becoming the first to introduce them to Europe. Within that same letter is also the dated proof that it was John D. Matthew and not John Lyndel who made the suggestion of naming the trees after the Duke of Wellington. As mentioned before the issues on both of these priorities was settled in 1866 by the new Editorial staff of the Gardeners Chronicle one year after John Lyndel's death in 1866. Many of the websites on the California Redwoods have already corrected the introduction to Europe portion giving that priority to Patrick Matthew with credit given to John D. Matthew for the seeds being gathered and mailed to his father. The naming issue is not as well known but is now being edified and documented and now crediting John D. Matthew with the then "Wellingtonia gigantean" naming of these remarkable trees.

Whoever monitors this site should take the time to at least read what the literature has to say on this subject... by those who obviously know much more accurately what is true and what is not.


Howard L. Minnick Major, ENGR U.S. Army (Ret.) Botanist, Range Conservationist & 3rd Great Grandson of Patrick Matthew

Moving this to talk space where it belongs. The given website might be a good source for sources but much of the material is directly supportive of the greater prominence of Patrick Matthew and would therefore have to be considered carefully for NPOV. Haakonsson (talk) 15:18, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]